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Seeing Other People

What Your Work Life Says About Your Love Life

Seeing Other People

Ilana Dunn

Relationships, Society & Culture, Sexuality, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Social Sciences, Science

4.5608 Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

I’m joined by Emily Durham, recruiter, creator, and host of Clock In, to talk about the surprising overlap between careers and dating in your 20s and 30s. Emily shares how leaving corporate shifted the way she dates, why confidence at work affects confidence in relationships, and the patterns she sees in both job searches and love lives. We get into the pressure of wanting to be chosen, the fear of asking for what you want, and why so many people settle in both careers and relationships. Emily also reacts to listener stories, including dating coworkers, holiday-party hookups, and the office crush that went very wrong.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

I was about to say I feel like I'm like clocking in for the first time in a very long time

0:07.4

because today we have Emily Durham, aka Emily the recruiter, host of clock in. Emily, welcome to

0:14.4

seeing other people. Thank you so much. What was that? Thank you so much. Like truly stumbered over my words, live, laugh, love that,

0:23.2

but no, I'm so excited to be here. Also, I'm obsessed with you in the show. So this just feels right.

0:27.4

Like I'm so excited. I feel like we could talk this entire time about like how we just are

0:33.8

obsessed with each other from afar. Six hours no no cuts. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

0:39.3

But I am so excited for you to be here,

0:41.5

partially because the number one topic that I love talking about,

0:46.7

besides dating, is career.

0:48.4

And I've thought about, like, oh, should I go be a career counselor?

0:53.9

Should I, like, literally be a guidance counselor? oh, should I go be a career counselor? Should I like literally be a guidance

0:56.2

counselor? Like should I, you know, go do something in that realm because I love it so much.

1:01.3

And so I'm so excited to have you on so we can talk about all things career, all things work,

1:07.2

workplace relationships, and how to actually get through your nine to five because even though I don't

1:14.3

have one, I have had in the past. And I know from my own experiences and from my listeners and my

1:19.8

dating coaching clients that if you're not happy at work, it bleeds into every single other

1:25.1

aspect of your life.

1:33.2

100%. And I think that's the biggest misconception about work and career is that it's this isolated thing that happens from 9 to 5 every day. But how you feel at work is how you feel on the

1:38.3

weekends. It's the anxiety you carry. Your lack of confidence showing up to work because of that

1:43.5

manager who's bringing you down

1:45.0

or that job that isn't a great fit for you. That trickles into how you're showing up for your

1:49.7

friends, how you feel about yourself in the morning. So it's deeply personal. But I am the exact same

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