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Hello, welcome to another episode of Pop Bear Hikes.

All right, so I'm glad to have back with us, our friends, Jamie and Christy and

Meyer. The last time they were with us, we talked about their adventures to the

Catskills, how they biked from fire tower to fire tower. Today, we're going to

talk about a couple of different things. We're going to start off talking about

bikepacking in general. Jamie and Christy, welcome back to the podcast.

Thank you so much for having us. Yeah, thanks one.

Let's start by talking about what bikepacking is. A lot of us we get on our

bikes. We'll go for a ride in our neighborhoods or in my case, I try to stretch it

maybe 30 plus miles, try to get the 40 by the end of the summer. But what

is what makes bikepacking different than just your bike riding? Yeah, I think it's

a great question to start with and I guess I would preface all of this by saying

we're not the definitive source and definitions and everybody probably has

their own take on things. At least my understanding, you know, bikepacking, I

think very simply is traveling by bike. I imagine an overnight needs to be a

part of that. And I think that's pretty pretty much it, you know, in the sense

of I think there is some comparisons and some common threads between bikepacking

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