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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

What would a Sanders or Biden presidency look like?

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2020

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Super Tuesday winnowed the 2020 Democratic primary race down to two candidates: Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. So how would their presidencies actually differ? Who would staff their administrations? How would they handle Congress? How would they handle key foreign policy decisions? What are their likely points of failure? How would they change the Democratic Party? I asked my friend, colleague, and Weeds co-host Matt Yglesias to join me for this conversation, and it was a good one. We’ve both covered Biden and Sanders for a long time, but come away with somewhat different impressions of each. The points where we differ here were, for me, even more helpful than the points where we agreed. I'll be interested, as always, to hear your thoughts: ezrakleinshow@vox.com. References: Matt Yglesias' case for Bernie Sanders Ezra's piece on what Bernie needs to learn from Biden New to the show? Want to check out Ezra's favorite episodes? Check out the Ezra Klein Show beginner's guide (http://bit.ly/EKSbeginhere) The “Why We’re Polarized” tour continues, with events in Austin, Nashville, Chicago, and Greenville. Go to WhyWerePolarized.com for the full schedule! Want to contact the show? Reach out at ezrakleinshow@vox.com Credits: Engineer - Cynthia Gil Producer/Editor - Jeff Geld Researcher - Roge Karma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to the Ezra Clancho on the Fox Media Podcast Network.

0:15.7

This is a super Tuesday.

0:16.8

Let's come in on Thursday special.

0:19.6

Something I've been wanting to do is actually not look at the election exactly, but think

0:23.8

about the presidency, the likely presidency of the two leading Democrats.

0:27.9

And at this point, as the race is, I think, quite clearly collapsed down to Joe Biden

0:32.1

and Bernie Sanders, it is a time to do that.

0:34.4

So I'm joined by my colleague and friend and Fox co-founder and weeds co-host, Matt

0:39.0

Eglaceius, to have that conversation.

0:41.4

But before we jump into this, I want to quickly talk about two jobs we're hiring for at

0:45.6

Fox, which are both having great jobs and will be of interest to this community, but are

0:49.5

only going to be open for applications for limited time.

0:51.8

So please do listen up.

0:53.4

We are hiring for a politics reporter and a race reporter.

0:55.8

Both of these are going to be key roles in the Fox newsroom.

0:59.1

We are looking for people up diverse backgrounds.

1:01.0

That could be journalistic backgrounds, but it could also be that you're a political scientist

1:05.4

or you have been doing activist or government work and you want to make a jump that you can

1:10.4

kind of show us that you really understand the issues you're going to be covering here,

1:13.6

backwards and forwards in a deeper way that will allow you to do great journalism on them.

1:17.7

But we are open to people who will need some training on the journalism side if they're

1:21.2

bringing a lot on the knowledge and analytical and experience side.

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