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Trump, Inc.

What We’ve Learned From Michael Cohen

Trump, Inc.

WNYC Studios

Don, Trump, News, Business, Jared, Ivanka, Jr, Politics, Business News, Government, Eric

4.65.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2019

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

For a year now, Trump, Inc. has been digging into the president’s business. We’ve reached out repeatedly to the Trump Organization with questions. Mostly, we haven’t gotten answers.   Yesterday was different. Michael Cohen worked for a decade as the president’s in-house attorney and fixer. In his testimony before the House Oversight Committee, he offered a detailed, insider account of alleged fraud, secrecy and cover-ups. In many cases, what he described connected to the very stories we’ve been digging into: -- How Cohen came to work for Trump. -- Evidence of possible wrongdoing by the Trump inaugural committee. (The District of Columbia’s attorney general just subpoenaed the Trump inaugural committee, citing issues we revealed.) -- How Trump often changed the value of his assets, sometimes to seem richer, sometimes to lower his taxes, like at his golf courses.  Trump, Inc. hosts Andrea Bernstein and Ilya Marritz sat down to review what we’ve learned and what it means for ongoing investigations into the president and his business. Dan Alexander from Forbes joined them.

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0:00.0

Donald Trump is a man who ran for office to make his brand great, not to make our country great.

0:08.0

In his opening remarks before the House Oversight Committee,

0:11.0

MacOcolon, President Trump's former personal attorney,

0:14.0

made a striking statement about Trump's campaign.

0:18.0

He had no desire or intention to leave this nation,

0:22.0

only to market himself and to build his wealth and power.

0:27.0

Mr. Trump would often say,

0:29.0

this campaign was going to be the greatest infomercial in political history.

0:35.0

In essence, it's not that Trump's campaign overlapped or conflicted with his business.

0:41.0

The campaign was the business.

0:43.0

He never expected to win the primary.

0:46.0

He never expected to win the general election.

0:49.0

The campaign for him was always a marketing opportunity.

0:58.0

Hello and welcome to this Trump Inc. podcast extra from WNYC in Propublica.

1:03.0

I'm Andrea Bernstein.

1:05.0

I'm Ilya Meritz.

1:06.0

For the last year, we've been unraveling the mysteries of Trump's financial interests.

1:10.0

This week, MacOcolon laid some of those interests bare in his testimony before the House Oversight Committee.

1:16.0

And in documents, he released leading up to the hearing.

1:20.0

And Ilya and I were like, oh my God, we can't believe we are actually having someone from inside

1:26.0

tell us how things worked on the record.

1:29.0

So we've each picked up some of the segments of the hearing that we think are the most illuminating

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