What We Learned from the COVID-19 Response with Philip Zelikow
The Nocturnists
Emily Silverman
4.8 • 614 Ratings
🗓️ 11 May 2023
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Emily speaks with historian, attorney, and diplomat Philip Zelikow, about the investigative report Lessons from the Covid War, authored by the COVID Crisis Group, which examines the U.S. response to COVID and provides valuable insights for how we can do better in the future.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone, before we dive into today's episode, I wanted to remind you that we have an open call for story pitches for our upcoming show in New York City on November 4th on the theme of taking care. And that's the show that we're producing in collaboration with the amazing medical literary magazine Bellevue Literary Review. |
| 0:25.6 | Anyone who's been involved in the caregiving experience can pitch their story for that show. |
| 0:27.8 | You don't have to be a doctor or a nurse. |
| 0:31.1 | You could be a patient or a family caregiver or really anyone. |
| 0:34.7 | So if you're interested in that opportunity, visit our website. |
| 0:38.8 | And remember that the deadline for pitches is the end of the month, so that's May 31st. And we're really looking forward to hearing some of your stories. Now on to today's |
| 0:45.2 | episode. Support for the Nocturnus comes from the California Medical Association. |
| 0:51.3 | At the Nocturnus, we are careful to ensure that all stories comply with health care privacy laws. |
| 0:56.3 | Details may have been changed to ensure patient confidentiality. |
| 0:59.8 | All views expressed are those of the person speaking and not their employer. |
| 1:10.1 | You're listening to The Nocturness Conversations. I'm Emily Silverman. |
| 1:16.9 | Today's episode features a truly extraordinary thinker, writer, public servant, and patriot. |
| 1:23.7 | His name is Philip Zilligo, and he is the White Burkett-Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia, |
| 1:30.4 | an attorney and a former career diplomat who has served at all levels of American government in administrations from Reagan to Obama. |
| 1:39.5 | Philip has led three bipartisan national commissions, the Carter Ford Commission on Federal Election Reform, |
| 1:47.3 | the 9-11 Commission, and the COVID Crisis Group. And it's the COVID crisis group that recently |
| 1:53.8 | published a book called Lessons from the COVID War, which is what Philip and I are going to be |
| 1:59.6 | discussing today on the show. |
| 2:01.3 | It's quite different from the other books and articles and papers that have been published |
| 2:06.8 | about COVID over the last few years. |
| 2:09.5 | And that's because it's an investigative report. |
| 2:12.9 | So a little bit of background on the COVID crisis group. |
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