What We Get Wrong About Epstein

Vibe Check

SiriusXM

Society & Culture

4.9 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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On this episode of Vibe Check, Saeed and Zach are joined by special guest Jess Michaels – TEDx speaker, survivor advocate, and 1991 survivor of Jeffrey Epstein. They explore why the Epstein files matter beyond the headlines, and how the conversation around abuse, consent, and survivor expectations often misses the deeper cultural realities.

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0:00.0	Girl.
0:05.3	I've been radicalized.
0:07.8	I am changed.
0:09.2	Which I didn't think was possible.
0:12.8	This week has really radicalized me in many, many ways.
0:16.3	Well, let's get into it.
0:17.7	I'm Sayy Jones.
0:18.9	And I'm Zach Stafford, and you are listening to Vibe Check.
0:29.9	I'm just going to say it for listeners.
0:32.7	Zach is my sister and my dear friend.
0:34.6	I say this all the time.
0:35.9	Zach also works so hard behind the scenes to get us in contact with some incredible people.
0:43.4	And now today, Jess Michaels, one of the Epstein survivors, and just an incredible advocate.
0:50.0	So I'm just, I'm really grateful to the show, but I'm also grateful to you, Zach, for realizing that these people want to talk to us, that they will make time to sit down with us.
1:00.8	Yeah, people, fun fact, everyone, people want to talk and you all want to listen. So here we are.
1:06.3	I'll take it. I'll take it.
1:08.1	As you now know, today's episode is an episode we've been teasing for some time, but we are releasing it today for a few reasons that I will now explain.
1:17.1	So as you now know, Jess Michaels, an incredible, incredible advocate, TEDx speaker, and she's also a 1991 rape survivor of Jeffrey Epstein.
1:26.6	She is joining us today on the show.
1:28.6	We months ago said that we were intentionally working with survivors around the Epstein
1:33.4	files to intentionally and thoughtfully bring them into our show in a way that made sense
1:38.8	on their time and on their terms.
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