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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

What Viktor Orbán's loss in Hungry could mean for Vance in 2028

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

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4.4675 Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

JD Vance is in the spotlight after a number of international stories involving the vice president.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Brian Lair's Daily Politics podcast from WNYC Studios.

0:10.6

It's Thursday, April 16th.

0:15.3

I'm Amina Surnah, a producer for the Brian Lair show, filling in for Brian today.

0:20.6

We begin with Vice President J.D. Vance and his involvement. a producer for the Brian Lair Show, filling in for Brian today.

0:28.3

We began with Vice President J.D. Vance and his involvement in Victor Orban's campaign for Prime Minister of Hungary.

0:39.1

The Vice President campaigned alongside the autocrat in Budapest last week, but Orban was ultimately defeated by the opposition party, led by Peter Magyar, a conservative.

0:41.9

Isaac Stanley Becker writes for the Atlantic, "...Seldom have American leaders intervened so overtly in a foreign election, and seldom has their

0:49.4

preferred candidate fared so badly.

0:52.7

Orban has been in office since 2010, making him the longest-serving

0:56.9

head of government in the European Union. And in addition to closely aligning with the,

1:02.8

in addition to closely aligning the Hungarian government with Russia, Orban has become closely aligned

1:09.1

with President Donald Trump and his MAGA movement.

1:12.6

As the New York Times puts it, MAGA has long shared DNA with Orban's brand of right-wing politics.

1:20.2

Both take a hard line anti-immigration stance.

1:23.3

Both have attempted curbing press freedoms.

1:26.3

And both movements are raising the alarm on falling

1:29.0

birth rates of who they see as their native populations. So, given Orban's defeat, all the more

1:36.0

stunning considering the heavy gerrymandering he himself put into place in his country, is there

1:41.4

a message in his loss for the Trump administration and the MAGA movement,

1:45.9

particularly as Vice President Vance asserts himself as the frontrunner in the 28 presidential

1:52.0

race. Joining us now to break down the latest is Eli Stokel's White House and Foreign Affairs

1:58.3

correspondent at Politico. Eli, welcome back to WMYC.

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