This is Brian Laird's Daily Politics Podcast from WNYC Studios.

It's Friday, April 17th.

I'm Kusha Navidar filling in for Brian today.

As the U.S. Israeli War on Iran wages on with a tenuous

ceasefire now in place, Russia's war on Ukraine also continues. Just this week, Russia launched more

than 700 drones and missiles at Ukraine, killing at least 17 people. It's the deadliest attack in

months, according to Reuters.

This war is now in its fifth year, and it shows few, if any, signs of ending.

European leaders have been telling President Zelensky that the Iran war will not stop

them from supporting Ukraine and that they'll actually provide more aid.

But the question is how?

And what about Trump's threat to pull the United States out of NATO, this time because Europe refused to join his war against Iran?

We'll talk about some of those questions now with Stephen Erlanger, who covers Europe as chief diplomatic correspondent for The New York Times.

He's joining us from Berlin. Stephen Hi, welcome back to WNYC.

Thank you. Nice to be back.

This is a pleasure to have you here. Listeners, we want to hear from you as well, especially if you have family or roots in Ukraine or anywhere

in Europe. Do you feel like Ukraine is being forgotten? Give us a call, send us a text to 112-433 W-Nyc.

Also, we welcome your questions for New York Times chief diplomatic correspondent, Stephen

Erlanger, who covers Europe and Russia's war in Ukraine. That number again,

212-433-9-6-9-2. Okay, Stephen, help put this moment in context for us. How much has the Iran

war changed things for Europe? Well, it's changed things because it's taken the world's attention away from the war in

Ukraine, which as you say has gone into its fifth year and remains very, very bloody and very

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