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Pantsuit Politics

What Trump Gets Wrong About China

Pantsuit Politics

Lemonada Media

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.54.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Sarah and Beth dig into why China suddenly feels both harder to understand and more important to pay attention to — from Xi Jinping's latest purges of military leadership to what his consolidating power means for the U.S. They also sit down with veteran journalist Jane Perlez to discuss what Americans get wrong about China. Plus, they talk about where they would hypothetically set up Pantsuit Politics International. Topics Discussed What We’re Missing On China Jane Perlez on Trade, President Xi, and the Future of China Outside of Politics: Pantsuit Politics International Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Lemonada.

0:02.7

This is Sarah Stewart-Holland.

0:16.0

This is Beth Silvers.

0:17.5

You're listening to Pantsuit Politics.

0:19.0

Today we're going to talk about China, and we're going to spend a few minutes talking about why we're talking about China. Certainly, the United States has a lot happening. We think there is a lot to learn from China right now. And we also feel like there was kind of a consensus about what we need to know about China as U.S. citizens that is changing rapidly. And so we want to spend

0:38.9

this episode talking about what's different now and why it matters to us. And we are joined to do that

0:44.6

by one of our favorite experts on China, Jane Perlis. She is a longtime China reporter. She hosts the

0:49.9

podcast Face Off, which is excellent. It dives into the issues that are large and small,

0:56.0

affecting the U.S.-China relationship. And Jane is just a real pleasure to spend time with.

1:00.5

So we hope you'll enjoy that conversation. Outside of politics, we are answering a question

1:05.5

from our beloved listener, Norma, about where we would relocate pantsuit politics if we had a headquarters.

1:12.1

If we had to choose a different country, where would we go?

1:15.4

Our team has been together this week for our annual retreat. We dreamed up lots of fun things

1:21.6

for this community to do together. One thing that we're particularly excited about is our weekend

1:27.4

in Minneapolis at the end of August.

1:30.1

We know Minneapolis, St. Paul, and the greater region there in Minnesota have really been through it this year.

1:36.0

And we also know that it's city, its small businesses, and its people are going to need support and light as this year marches on.

1:42.1

We have been trying to get to the Twin Cities for a show for

1:44.4

years because it is the number one geographic location for Pantsuit Politics listeners. It's the

1:49.2

greatest concentration of all y'all out there listening. That's why it holds such a special

1:52.6

place in our heart. And I think it was the Holy Spirit at work that we picked this year as a good

1:57.5

one to go. It feels very, very special to stand in support with that community.

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