Lemonada.

This is Sarah Stewart Holland.

This is Beth Silvers.

You're listening to Pantsuit Politics.

Today, we're going to talk

about two stories this week that feel different, but we believe, are related. First, the Wall Street

Journal's blockbuster reporting on the UAE investments in Trump companies and whatever the hell is

happening between Melania and Amazon. Plus, and completely separately, the federal courts are

reaching their limit with how immigration policy is being handled in this country. One story is about

conflict of interest and the other is about constitutional process, but both are about institutions

and have all of us asking, what exactly are we doing here? And then outside of politics,

we're going to talk about the Grammys. Before we do that, we are excited to share that we're coming

to Minneapolis at the end of August this year for a live show and our first ever Spice Conference.

We call the people who support our work on Substack and get all of our premium podcast, The Spice Cabinet.

So that's why we're having the Spice Conference.

We know that Minneapolis has faced a lot this year.

We are really grateful the timing has worked out for us to be there and support the Twin Cities community and local businesses and the many listeners who are there.

Tickets for that live show will go on sale at the beginning of March, but tickets to the Spice Conference go on sale next week.

We will be releasing them to our premium members in two batches.

It's a little complicated because we're trying to navigate everyone's time zones and make it as fair as we can so that you get a chance to come.

Mark your calendar for next week.

Tuesday, February 10th at 9 p.m. Eastern Time is the first batch. The second batch is Wednesday, February 11th at noon Eastern time. You'll find all this in the show notes. There will not be a test. It'll just be right there for you. But we really hope that you'll come join us in Minneapolis. Next up, let's talk about the grift.

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