You're going to be. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. All right,

friends, Greg Kocul here, and I am in from my my fishing trip in Wisconsin. I'm

going back there in a few days but I thought I'd just show up and get in the seat

again in the saddle to take your calls and to, and we got a full bank of calls, it warms the

cockles of my heart. But before we get to the callers, every summer I get to participate in one of the most fun events of the year for me.

It's something that I've been doing for a number of years in participation with my friend Frank Turick, Mr. New Jersey. Do you want a piece of me kind of Frank Turrick?

He's on board with us today. Frank, welcome to the show.

It's great being with you all the way from the great state now, not of New Jersey, but of North Carolina, Greg.

Yes.

And you're coming here because we're going to do CIA here this year in Charlotte.

That's right. So we have been doing CIA here this year in Charlotte. That's right.

So we have been doing CIA for how many years now together.

This is your project, of course, but I've been on board every year.

I want to say this is going to be year 18.

Hmm. It's 17 or 18. Yeah, we started in 08, so do the math.

Yeah, no, you do the math. No, I can. I'm old. Forget it. I have my math. I have my truth. You have your math. just like I have my truth, you have your truth.

There you go, yeah.

CIA cross-examined instructor academy.

We've been doing it many, many years and it's really grown, Frank. I remember when we first started doing this, it was kind of a motley crew of people you assemble to learn how to engage and how to communicate and how to be more effective,

more effective apologists, and it is really blossomed over the years.

And many of the people who are instructors now were students at earlier CIA's

and they began to make a difference.

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