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The Lawfare Podcast

What to Make of the 2023 NDAA and Consolidated Appropriations Act

The Lawfare Podcast

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2022

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Over the past few weeks, Congress has slowly brought two of its biggest pieces of annual omnibus legislation to the finish line: the National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA, and the Consolidated Appropriations Act. Both annual endeavors play central complementary roles in our political system and often become vehicles for an array of otherwise unrelated provisions, including many related to national security. And even by the usual standards of Congress, this year's process has been a chaotic one.

To discuss, Lawfare senior editor Scott R. Anderson sat down with fellow Lawfare senior editor and Brookings Institution colleague Molly Reynolds. They talked about the process that led to this year's bills and highlighted some notable items that are in them— and some notable items that aren't.

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So, in provisions, are more successful at making their way to passage,

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if we don't talk about them.

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Obviously, we talked a great deal about how to the development and debate

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over this proposal to reform the Electoral Account Act,

0:49.0

which was worked on, as you said, by members of the Senate and marked up.

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In Senate committees earlier this year,

0:55.0

but then, I think, impart to sort of get it across the finish line

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and given the way that some of the issues related,

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either directly or less directly, to January 6th, have gotten increasingly politicized,

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and obviously the January 6th committee is in the process of releasing its final report and documents.

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I think this notion that maybe if we sort of didn't talk about the fact that

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the Electoral Account Act reform was in the omnibus, that that would perhaps make it less likely

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that someone would use its presence to jeopardize the prospect in the overall bill.

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I'm Scott Arnterson, and this is the Law Fair Podcast for December 23rd, 2022.

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Over the past few weeks, Congress has slowly brought two of its biggest pieces of annual omnibus legislation

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to the finish line, the National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA,

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