Tom Wheeler and Dave Simpson on Making 5G Secure
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 22 December 2022
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
Fifth generation, or 5G technology, promises to bring high-speed, low-latency wireless infrastructure necessary for the smart era. But moving from the promise of 5G to a reality where 5G networks will deliver amazing and important new capabilities and services will require those networks to be secure. To talk about 5G cybersecurity challenges, Lawfare senior editor Stephanie Pell sat down with Tom Wheeler, visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution and former chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (or FCC), and Admiral (ret.) David Simpson, professor at Virginia Tech and former chief of the Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau at the FCC. They just published a new paper entitled, “5G is Smart, Now Let’s Make it Secure.” They talked about the 5G cyber paradox, three specific cybersecurity challenges they outline in the paper, and recommendations they make for addressing these cybersecurity challenges going forward.
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| 0:22.0 | rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:29.0 | The frustration of the FCC during the last administration |
| 0:39.0 | was that they did not say to American companies, |
| 0:46.0 | Hey, these protections are in place. |
| 0:50.0 | Let's make sure that we use them. |
| 0:53.0 | Let alone, hey, we know there are other things that can be doing. |
| 0:58.0 | Such as the framework developed by the National Institute of Standards and Technology. |
| 1:04.0 | And you need to be doing those as well. |
| 1:08.0 | I'm Stephanie Pell, and this is the LawFair podcast December 22, 2022. |
| 1:14.0 | Fifth generation or 5G technology promises to bring high speed, low latency, |
| 1:21.0 | wireless infrastructure necessary for the smart era. |
| 1:25.0 | But moving from the promise of 5G to a reality where 5G networks will deliver |
| 1:30.0 | amazing and important new capabilities and services will require those networks to be secure. |
| 1:38.0 | To talk about 5G cybersecurity challenges, I sat down with Tom Wheeler, |
| 1:44.0 | visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution and former chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, |
| 1:50.0 | or FCC, and Admiral David Simpson, Professor at Virginia Tech, |
| 1:56.0 | and former chief of the Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau at the FCC. |
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