What to know about lymphedema, a painful side effect of breast cancer treatment
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🗓️ 19 October 2025
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| 0:24.6 | The end of breast cancer treatment is caused for celebration. But for many patients, it can bring new challenges. |
| 0:31.6 | They can include lymphedema, a painful swelling of tissue due to excess fluid retention. |
| 0:36.6 | Some studies show up to 65% of women who undergo breast cancer surgery develop lymphedema. |
| 0:43.9 | Ali Rogan spoke with two members of the nonprofit lymphedema education and research network, |
| 0:49.7 | Dr. Stanley Robson of Stanford Medicine, and retired Army Colonel Susan Fondy, who's also a physician. |
| 0:57.3 | Thank you both so much for being here. Dr. Roxton, let's start with you. Why is lymphedema so common |
| 1:03.5 | among breast cancer patients? Lymphidema occurs because the lymphatic system has been damaged. |
| 1:10.2 | And systematically, we have to do that |
| 1:12.7 | both to determine the appropriate treatment for breast cancer and to curtail the cancer. |
| 1:18.3 | So lymph nodes are removed, but that creates damage. |
| 1:22.2 | 80, 85% of the time that damage can be accommodated by the body, but 15% of the time it results in |
| 1:30.1 | malfunction. And that's what we call lymphedema. And because breast cancer is so common |
| 1:35.0 | among women in the United States, the numbers of people affected, even if it's only 15%, will be relatively |
| 1:41.5 | large. Colonel Fondi, you were diagnosed with stage three breast cancer and developed |
| 1:47.4 | lymphedema following your treatment. But as a physician yourself, when you were going in for |
| 1:52.3 | consultation, you asked questions about your risk. What did doctors at the time tell you? |
| 1:58.2 | When I was first diagnosed with breast cancer, the surgeon saw me, |
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