From Big Shift Studios in Oakland, California.

This is the Big Shift Podcast with Bill Barron.

Getting Real about Business Growth and Success Mind sets

for those making a difference.

Now introducing your host Bill Barron, who owns more hats than Richard Branson's had businesses.

Hey there, Bill Barron here with...

Karen, Kenny, BB and KK in the house here to have one of our little chats, a little

get-togethers to see what's riffing off the top of our

I had some things that we've been thinking about and I always love to see what

my friend, East Coast, West Coast. I'm always interested to see what my friend

Bill has to say about things that have been on my mind and I'm always interested to see what my friend Bill has to say about things that have been on my mind and I'm always

curious to hear about what's on his mind because he's a wicked smarty pants you guys.

You know it's really funny I was like, all right, like what are we doing? I mean, it's like, is this Enlightenment and the gutter?

Is that what we're doing here?

You know, I just think that, you know, the famous writer Joan Didian said you know I don't know what I think until I write I don't know what I think I write it down and it's a discovery process and I think sometimes when I talk to you I think I know what I think until I start to talk.

And then I hear another point of view.

And it's just kind of like this, it's like, you know, it's like call it spiritual ping pong.

It's like we just kind of get to go back and forth and so these talks

help me to sometimes figure out what I believe, what I think, and also what I didn't

know that I thought.

Yeah. You know, I'll start with a little bit of gratitude

and I'll tell you why I love these talks

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