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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

What the January 6th Committee Uncovered This Week

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Politics, Washington, News, Obama, Wnyc, President, Lizza, Barack, Wickenden

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Two hearings this week laid out the stark implications of President Trump’s efforts to stay in office. On Tuesday, members of the House Select Committee on January 6th heard testimony about attempts to deliver “fake” slates of electors to Congress. State election officials and poll workers spoke, in powerful terms, about the intense vitriol and harassment they were subjected to by Trump supporters, simply for doing their jobs. On Thursday, the Committee explored President Trump’s pressure campaign at the Justice Department to get top officials to go along with false claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election. As Evan Osnos wrote for The New Yorker, “Trump’s political formula has rested on a dark genius at leveraging the powerful against the vulnerable, a tribe against a dissenter, the mob against the foe—and he nearly succeeded in using that recipe to overturn the election that he lost.” In the third installment of a special series for the Politics and More podcast, three members of The New Yorker’s Washington bureau—Osnos, Susan B. Glasser, and Jane Mayer—take us through the big developments at the hearings this week.

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Welcome to a special episode of the political scene. I'm Evan Osniz from the New Yorker. For the past two weeks, I've been gathering with my Washington colleagues, Jane Mayer, and Susan Glasser, to discuss the January 6th hearings. And yesterday's hearing was almost beyond belief. Jane and Susan,

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it's terrific to be back with you again. And let's get right into this. Let's start with yesterday's

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hearing and former President Trump's pressure campaign on the Department of Justice. Richard Donahue,

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a name that perhaps a lot of Americans hadn't heard before, was the

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acting Deputy Attorney General at the end of the Trump administration. And he testified that during

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a phone call on December 27th, 2020, Trump told him and acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen

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to, quote, just say that the election was corrupt and

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leave the rest to me and the Republican congressman. This is according to Donahue's notes from the day.

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This was after the DOJ had already investigated and found no evidence of widespread voter fraud or

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corruption. And Susan, it seems like this is just more evidence that Trump was told there was no

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