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This is the Politics and More podcast. I'm David Remnick.

Governor Ron DeSantis has shown himself to be uniquely skilled

at attracting attention to himself well beyond the borders of Florida, his home state.

He's willing to pick a fight with just about anyone to grab a headline,

reporters, health officials, teachers,

even Mickey Mouse. Just this month, he blocked state funds for the Tampa Bay Rays Stadium

when players tweeted in support of gun control in the wake of the slaughter in Yuvaldi.

And he's trying to punish the Disney Corporation for criticizing Florida's so-called don't-say gay law.

Staff writer Dexter Filkins has been reporting from Florida and looking in to see whether Ron DeSantis is the potential heir to Trump or maybe his biggest political opponent.

Dexter, right now we're watching the January 6 hearings, and at the same time, Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, is making a lot of noise as a politician.

Is it very likely that he's the number one contender behind Trump to inherit the mantle of the Republican Party?

Yeah, I think so. All the polls suggest that if Trump doesn't run DeSantis is in poll position, and he's ready,

I mean, he's got, you know, more than $100 million in the bank.

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