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Apple News In Conversation

What the Iran war reveals about Trump’s approach to power

Apple News In Conversation

Apple News

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4.21.8K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

On Feb. 28, the United States and Israel launched a series of military strikes against Iran, killing the country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Since then, Iran has retaliated, and the conflict has spread across the region. The escalation comes during President Trump’s second term in office, which has already included several instances of military action abroad. To help make sense of this moment, Apple News In Conversation guest host Sam Sanders spoke with New Yorker staff writer Susan Glasser, coauthor of The Divider, a book about Trump’s first term. They discuss what’s driving Trump’s foreign policy — and what it could mean for America’s role in the world.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is In Conversation from Apple News.

0:06.1

I'm Sam Sanders in for Shemita Basu.

0:08.7

Today, Iran and foreign policy under Trump 2.0.

0:17.2

On February 28, the United States and Israel launched a series of military strikes against Iran,

0:28.6

killing the supreme leader Ayatollah Hamenei, who had ruled the country for nearly 37 years.

0:34.6

Since then, Iran has retaliated and the conflict has spread across the region. At least six U.S.

0:40.2

troops have been killed. Human rights groups say more than a thousand Iranian civilians have died in the

0:45.3

crossfire. The escalation comes during the presidency already marked by several instances of military

0:51.3

action abroad. During his first year back in office, Trump has ordered strikes in multiple countries,

0:58.0

including Venezuela, where U.S. forces captured President Nicholas Maduro and his wife.

1:03.0

Taken together, it all marks a striking start to Trump's second term on the world stage.

1:09.0

And all of it raises really big questions.

1:11.6

What exactly is driving Trump's foreign policy right now?

1:14.9

How does that continue to play out over the next three years of his term?

1:19.0

And what does all of this mean for America's role in the world?

1:22.7

To help make sense of this moment, I spoke with Susan Glasser.

1:26.0

She's a staff writer at The New Yorker,

1:27.8

and she co-authored a book about Donald Trump

1:30.0

and his first term in office.

1:32.0

It's called The Divider.

1:34.3

Susan has been covering American foreign policy

1:36.4

and presidential power for decades.

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