Rebroadcast: The truth about Johnson & Johnson
Apple News In Conversation
Apple News
4.2 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 26 February 2026
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
This is an episode from our archives.
For more than a century, Johnson & Johnson has billed itself as one of the most trusted companies in American history. But, in a stunning investigation, journalist Gardiner Harris documents decades of misconduct and malfeasance by the health-care conglomerate. Harris’s book is called No More Tears: The Dark Secrets of Johnson & Johnson. He spoke with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu about why he says the company has “knowingly contributed to the deaths and grievous injuries of millions” through products including baby powder, a fentanyl patch, and a cancer drug. Johnson & Johnson has denied many of these allegations.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey there, it's Shemita here. I am now out on parental leave, and Sam Sanders, the award-winning podcast and radio host, will be taking over the host chair for a bit while I'm gone. You'll hear him starting next week. But in the meantime, here's an episode from our archives that really stuck with me. It's a massive investigation that exposes a lot about health care, government oversight, and accountability in America. |
| 0:23.7 | I hope you enjoy it. |
| 0:28.3 | This is In Conversation from Apple News. |
| 0:31.8 | I'm Shmita Basu. Today, the dark secrets of Johnson and Johnson. |
| 0:49.3 | From the start of your life, it's been a part of your life, a special... This is a 1976 ad for Johnson's Baby Power. |
| 0:52.6 | It's a feeling. You're never a pro. Johnson's Baby Powder. For more than a century, |
| 0:54.2 | you never a pro. |
| 0:56.9 | Johnson's Baby Powder is a feeling you never upro. |
| 1:01.9 | For more than a century, |
| 1:04.2 | the J&J brand has billed itself |
| 1:06.1 | as one of the most trusted companies |
| 1:08.0 | in American history, |
| 1:09.6 | and Baby Powder was its most iconic product. |
| 1:12.8 | The scent of baby powder is the most recognized fragrance on the planet. |
| 1:19.8 | That's investigative journalist Gardner Harris. |
| 1:22.7 | It's this extraordinary branding tool because, of course, when you're a baby and you smell this smell, |
| 1:30.3 | it's delivered to you by your mother, the most important person in your life. |
| 1:35.1 | So from infancy, you associate this smell with love and trust. |
| 1:42.6 | And so it's this branding tool that was a shield for Johnson and Johnson forever. |
| 1:48.3 | As it would turn out, J&J's talc-based baby powder was contaminated with asbestos, a dangerous |
| 1:54.1 | mineral that can cause cancer. And that wasn't the only product at the company found to have |
| 1:58.8 | major issues. Gardner has covered public health |
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