What the Defense Doesn't Want the Public to Know About the Chilling Murder of a Pregnant Wife
Surviving the Survivor: #BestGuests in True Crime
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🗓️ 20 May 2026
⏱️ 71 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The light that she had is no longer in this world. |
| 0:04.5 | Those are the words of a former patient of Krista Bauer Gilly, who is no longer with us. |
| 0:12.7 | Prosecutors say at the hands of her husband Lee Gilly, who not only was on for murder, that was supposed to take place shortly, |
| 0:22.5 | but he bolted, heads to Canada, makes his way to Italy, where he is ultimately arrested by Italian authorities. |
| 0:31.2 | And now he says, don't send me back to Texas. |
| 0:35.3 | Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor, where we bring you the best |
| 0:40.1 | guests in all of true crime. |
| 0:42.8 | Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Walton. |
| 0:47.1 | What's up, SCS Nation? |
| 0:48.6 | Welcome to the global phenomenon that is surviving the survivor, bringing you the very best |
| 0:54.1 | guests in all of true crime tonight. |
| 0:56.7 | We dive back into a fascinating story. |
| 0:59.7 | The defendant here, prosecutors say that Lee Gilley murdered his wife and then incredibly somehow gets his ankle monitor off, but even more incredibly, gets out on bond to get that ankle monitor off, |
| 1:15.2 | hops on a flight or gets his way to Canada somehow, and then hops on apparently an Air Canada flight, |
| 1:21.7 | which takes him to Milan, Italy, and subsequently, he is detained by authorities there and had a court appearance in Italy and telling Italian authorities, look, don't send me back to Texas because they will put me to death for something I did not do here to help us break this all down. |
| 1:44.8 | He is the famed Tallahassee criminal defense attorney, the letter R and OUR. |
| 1:51.0 | Also a former federal prosecutor, Tim Jansen, is in the house. |
| 1:56.1 | And now we welcome a first time best guest, J.L. Carpenter, a very Texas name for a Texas woman. |
| 2:05.3 | Here is J.L. Carpenter, a criminal defense attorney. Did you start off on the prosecutorial side of things, J.L? |
| 2:13.5 | I did. I served three years as a Galveston County prosecutor before I practiced criminal defense. |
| 2:19.8 | Nice. Glad to have you. And J.L. sent a whole bunch of notes, important notes to me, which I greatly appreciate in which we will get to in just a moment. |
| 2:33.1 | Let me start with you, J.L., since you're local. How big a deal is this |
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