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The Politics Show

What the Brexit deal means for Rishi Sunak – and Keir Starmer

The Politics Show

The New Statesman

Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Rishi Sunak has agreed a deal with the EU on the Northern Ireland protocol. He has hailed this as a “new chapter” in relations, but will he reap the rewards?

 

Anoosh Chakelian, Freddie Hayward and Rachel Wearmouth discuss the “Windsor framework”, as the deal is known, and what the DUP and hardline Tory Brexiteers will do now. They also debate whether Labour will be forced to drop its “Make Brexit Work” slogan.

 

Then in You Ask Us, a listener asks what is behind Keir Starmer’s missions, which are outlined in his cover essay for this week’s New Statesman magazine.


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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Anouche. I'm Freddie. And I'm Rachel. And this is the New

0:10.8

Statesman's twice-weekly politics podcast. In this episode, we discuss the

0:15.1

aftermath of the New Brexit Agreement and you ask us about Keir Starmer's

0:18.8

missions.

0:25.2

All eyes are on the Democratic Unionist Party now following the government's

0:29.1

announcement of the Winter Framework. This is the new EU-UK agreement on

0:33.3

trading relations between Great Britain and Northern Ireland. We won't go

0:36.1

through all of the details of how that changes at the trading

0:39.2

relationship because I'm sure our listeners will have caught up on a lot of

0:42.0

that. But we want to know what happens next. So the DUP leader, Jeffrey Donaldson,

0:46.3

he's been fairly nuanced in his response to it compared to

0:49.2

stauncher figures in his party and also the hard-aligned voices of the

0:52.6

traditional unionist voice party. And the Tory Brexitist response as well has

0:56.7

been generally quite positive. There was glowing coverage in the right

1:00.6

wing press that usually trying to make trouble for Ishi Sunag and support Boris

1:04.4

Johnson's line. Although some MPs, some Tory MPs are saying that they would

1:08.0

only vote through this new arrangement with the DUP's backing. So we're waiting

1:11.5

to hear what they say. Donaldson has said it will take as long as it takes.

1:16.0

Freddie, is it a triumph anyway for Sunag even if power sharing doesn't

1:20.4

return to Northern Ireland just because he's managed to sort out this legal

1:24.0

framework for implementing the protocol without creating the huge

1:27.0

divisions in his party that his predecessors have?

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