Inside Westminster’s warped workplace
The Politics Show
The New Statesman
4.2 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 27 February 2023
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Anoosh Chakelian and Zoë Grünewald are joined by two parliamentary researchers to delve into the working conditions, power imbalances and abuses that take place within Westminster.
Jenny Symmons and Holly Brazier Tope are senior researchers for Labour MPs and representatives of parliamentary staff for the GMB union. They open up about the problems at their workplace, ranging from diseased drinking water, fires and asbestos to bullying, outrageous assignments and sexual misconduct.
The team discuss the dangers of being employed by an individual MP, including poor pay and being fired at will, why parliamentary staffers are considering strike action, and whether a more inclusive and less toxic workplace is possible.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Anouche, and I'm Zoe, and you're listening to the New Statesman's twice-weekly Politics |
| 0:11.9 | podcast. On today's episode, we find out what it's like to work for an MP and why parliamentary |
| 0:17.1 | staffers are thinking of going on strike. On today's New Statesman podcast, we're discussing |
| 0:27.6 | the life and working conditions of MPs staff. A few weeks ago, Lee Anderson, a Tory MP and |
| 0:33.2 | now deputy chair of the party, tweeted a picture of one of his employees that caused outrage |
| 0:37.8 | online when he said, she earned less than 30k, spent £120 a month on commuting and rented |
| 0:44.0 | in central London, but did not need to use a food bank. And I should say that I did contact |
| 0:49.0 | his office to ask him about his staff turnover, but we didn't get a reply. Since then, MPs |
| 0:54.4 | staff represented by the United Union have been discussing a strike ballot after rejecting |
| 0:58.9 | a 4.9% pay offer, which they called woefully inadequate. And I should just note before we |
| 1:03.6 | start that there are different types of employment in Parliament. There are staff who are employed |
| 1:07.5 | by Parliament, like the House of Commons clerks and admin staff and members of staff employed |
| 1:11.7 | by individual MPs. Today, we're joined by some staff who work for MPs, Jenny Simmons, |
| 1:16.7 | senior researcher for a labour MP and chair of the GMB branch for members staff and |
| 1:21.8 | Holly Brazier, tope, senior researcher for a labour MP and workplace rep for the GMB branch |
| 1:27.1 | for members staff. Thanks so much for joining us, both of you. |
| 1:29.5 | Great to be here. So, before we get into the meat of the topic, why don't you tell us a bit |
| 1:34.2 | about yourselves how long you've been working in Parliament? Actually, we've been working |
| 1:37.1 | in Parliament around the same time because Holly and I met in our first month. So, yeah, |
| 1:42.1 | I started in June 2018. So I've been there almost five years and I've worked for five MPs |
| 1:47.1 | in that time. And so, yeah, I started a similar time like July 2018 and I have worked for two |
| 1:53.6 | different MPs, both for about two and a half years. Great, and why don't you tell us a little |
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