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I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

What Should We Think About Angels & Demons? with Pastor Allen Jackson

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.85K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

We see the battle between good and evil throughout the Bible and in the world around us. But do angels and demons influence our lives today and if they do, how do they interact with us?Joining Frank on the program this week is Pastor Allen Jackson from World Outreach Church in Murfreesboro, TN. Under his humble yet confident leadership, the church has grown from fewer than 30 people to over 15,000 since 1989. His new book, 'Angels, Demons & You: Unseen Spiritual Influences in Our Lives', provides a biblical perspective on the reality of spiritual forces and how they impact our daily lives. Together, Frank and Allen answer questions like:* What happened to Allen's mom that led to his whole family being born again?* How did World Outreach Church go from a small Bible study in Allen's parents' home to a megachurch?* Is leadership just a secular word?* Is Islam compatible with the U.S. Constitution?* Why does our American culture seem to dismiss the existence of angels and demons?* What was it like studying at a secular school like Vanderbilt University?* What roles did angels have in the Bible and what is their role today?* Should pastors be "political"?* Is there a way to detect the presence of angels and demons acting in our lives?You'll also learn the importance of making disciples instead of people who just sit in pews, and why the greatest inheritance we can leave our family isn't fortune or fame--but living a life that honors God. From his humble beginnings as the son of an equine veterinarian, to a ministry that now reaches and encourages 3,000,000+ people per week around the globe, you'll see why Allen says, "The One we serve is great and we serve at His pleasure!"Resources mentioned during the episode:World Outreach Church - https://wochurch.org/ (https://wochurch.org/)Allen Jack Ministries - https://allenjackson.com/ (https://allenjackson.com/)Allen’s podcast - https://cultureandchristianity.org/podcast/ (https://cultureandchristianity.org/podcast/)Angels, Demons, and You - https://bit.ly/3TYYC1S (https://bit.ly/3TYYC1S)God Bless America Again - https://bit.ly/3IcTlRL (https://bit.ly/3IcTlRL)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen, C.S. Lewis said something many years ago that there are two extremes when it comes to angels and demons.

0:10.8

And one of them, particularly with regard to demons, is to think there's a demon under every rock.

0:15.7

And the other is to ignore them completely and say they don't exist.

0:21.3

What should we think about demons? What should we think about demons?

0:23.0

What should we think about angels?

0:24.5

What does this have to do with you?

0:26.7

Well, I'm very pleased today to introduce you to a friend that I met about a year ago at

0:32.5

his church.

0:33.7

It's a phenomenal church.

0:35.8

It's called World Outreach Church. It's southeast of Nashville. It's a phenomenal church. It's called World Outreach Church. It's southeast of Nashville.

0:41.3

It's in Murphy's Borough. And my friend Alan Jackson has been the pastor there since 1989.

0:49.4

But he is a pastor that believes that a Christian has to be a Christian 24-7, 365 in every area of our lives.

0:59.1

I originally met him at a Charlie Kirk event out in Phoenix.

1:03.2

He is a man that understands that discipleship doesn't mean, hey, I'm just going to heaven.

1:07.9

Now I can just sit around and wait for my body to decay.

1:10.1

No, he's engaged and he engages people on every level at his church, through his podcast,

1:17.5

through his TV show, through radio all over the country, all over the world.

1:21.6

15,000 people a week go to World Outreach Church in Murphysboro.

1:27.0

And about 3 million listen every week.

1:29.6

Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, the great Alan Jackson, who I say is also the winner of the

1:37.2

Paul McCartney Lookalike Award.

1:39.1

Alan, it's great.

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