Shark family this week on Barbel's Rugg we're sitting down with none other than our dear friend coach Travis

Mash like we do every week but this week we wanted to interview him specifically on his PhD that he is getting in

Athlete monitoring where he's at he's coming up on the end of all of his research writing his papers and

He's gonna have to go defend his

dissertation and that's terrifying

But I think it's a really cool conversation because so many people in the fitness field think that the next level really is going to get your

Master's and exercise science or going to get a PhD and we wanted to talk about what the difference is in Travis Mash's life

Now that he is getting his PhD

Going through the master's program and where he was before just kind of as like world champion weightlifter that also has

The strongest kids in the world and he's a national champion after one year of coaching at Lenore Ryan

Obviously, he's insanely

Insanely qualified to coach anybody that exists in this world and powerlifting an Olympic weightlifting, but

What has really changed in his mind now that he has gotten his

Masters is pursuing his PhD and is wrapping up all the research on that so it's a really cool conversation because I think so many people look at PhDs

Is far above and beyond what is actually necessary and it's actually true because Mash is doing a ton of work

I mean this thing almost killed him like literally put him in the hospital with the amount of work stress workload all of that

And it's a really good conversation

It's an honest conversation about how hard it is to actually get your PhD and string conditioning

And if that's somebody that you would like to work with

What what somebody with a PhD actually has to go through in order to to get the letters behind their name

And a lot of this really comes back to kind of Lane Norton

Andy Galpin guys that went and got their PhDs, you know two decades ago and

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