What to make of these Republican presidential debates? What to make of these

Republican presidential primaries and what to make of the mainstream media's

coverage of these debates and the primaries and the Republican candidates and of the Republican

voters. These are all issues that have been bothering me for some time, which you'll understand

why when we get into the conversation with today's guest

Eliana Johnson who makes her maiden voyage on the call me back podcast

Eliana is the editor-in-chief of the Washington Free Beacon one of my favorite publications

she's formerly White House correspondent at Politico, and she previously served as Washington

Editor National Review, where she led the organization's coverage of the 2016 presidential election. She also has worked as a

producer at Fox News. She was a research associate at the Council on Foreign

Relations and she is a graduate of Yale University where she has a degree in history.

Eliana is one of the wisest journalists I know in Washington, chock full of insights,

both on just the national political scene generally and right of

center politics specifically and I'm excited to have this conversation with her especially

coming off this most recent debate before we start a conversation with Eliana though,

two quick housekeeping notes.

The next couple of episodes are going to deal heavily

with national politics.

We have AB Stoddard coming on, but mostly focused on the state of

the Democratic primaries, and then we have, yes primaries, keep that in mind. I do not

think it's a certainty that Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee and

then we also have Carl Rove coming on returning to the podcast to have a

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