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Thank you. forward slash ad free to find out more. Hello and welcome back to the Americano show, where we talk about power, politics and prejudices in American life.

Every week we will talk to at least one or two or possibly three or four

American experts, international experts about American affairs. And you can also catch us on

spectator TV on YouTube as often as you like. Please keep listening and watching. I'm delighted to be joined today by Candice

Owens, the now very famous host of the Candice Owens show, who is making quite a lot of noise in the

media because she is being sued or threatened with legal action by the Macron's, Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron,

the president and first lady of France. Because Candice, you believe that Bridget McRour

is a man. Why do you think the Macrons are choosing to sue you? Because they were trying to stop the story.

I think it was an effective PR strategy.

They had been suing and harassing the journalists that had initially brought the story

forth to the French public for years.

And then they lost their defamation suit against the two journalists, Amandine Roy, Natasha Ray.

And that was pretty explosive news. So I think that they then filed suit against the two journalists. I'm on Dean Roy, Natasha Ray. And that was pretty explosive news.

So I think that they then filed suit against me and knowing that it would drive potentially

the most media traffic to kind of say, oh, no, but it still isn't true at all. I know we lost

this affirmation case in our home turf, but we're now going to try it in America just to kind of signal to the press that they're not lying. But I mean, if you wanted the story to go away and knowing a little bit about you, as they probably do by now, certainly her legal team will, this is not a very sensible strategy for making the story go away if they're worried that it's true and they want it to be covered up. Yeah, actually, if you look at the history of them as a couple, they haven't been very good at PR.

And I think that the reason that is, is I'm not quite sure they understand the differences, the nuances between America and France, the United States and France.

Where they live, they can can and they have sue journalists

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