Well, women have desires, and in the church, we don't always talk about what to do with those desires.

And so oftentimes it's hidden sin or secret passions or reading the romance novels and kind of getting all hyped up about it instead of having an appropriate relationship with someone that's wise counsel that can talk through those emotions.

It's normal to be passionate. We should be passionate about God first and then people, and if it's our upcoming spouse,

that's awesome.

We want to encourage that, but we don't, and we don't want to discourage it like often happens

in the church, but a lot of people don't know how to talk about it.

And so they just say, oh, don't feel that or don't talk about that or don't look at that.

And it's talking about the heart issues.

And if we're desiring God first,

he's gonna give us pure desires

toward our spouse or our future spouse.

Well, howdy, Pastor Mark here.

Welcome back to the Real Marriage podcast.

If you haven't heard, we've got a brand new book. My wife, Grace, and I, called Real Romance.

It's about sex in The Song of Songs. It's releasing in February. And here's the big idea.

My wife, Grace, and I, we have been teaching on marriage for a long time. And the thing that was

most popular was the Song of Solomon many years ago. And we

have brought back all of that content. We have expanded it. Be the first time that we have ever

published and widely released it. And hey, let's just be honest, man, economy is down. Money is

tight. You need a new hobby. we're here to help spice up your

bedroom. You can find all the details and pre-order the book at real romancebook.com. That's real

romancebook.com. Thanks to our friends at Exo and Pastor Jimmy for publishing it. On today's episode,

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