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It's Complicated

What's So Complicated About Subverting Sanctions; Firing Blanks; and International College?

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

This week: Asha and Renato discuss the indictment of the former head of the FBI Counter Intel Division in New York Charles McGonigal; the charges against Alec Baldwin and Hannah Gutierrez Reed - Rust's armorer; plus the benefits of sending your kid to college outside of the US. Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Subscribe on Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/   Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariotti   Opening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

M-S-W Media.

0:09.0

Hey Asha, now that the former head of the FBI Counter Intelligence Division in New York

0:15.2

has been indicted for working with a Russian oligarch, does that mean the FBI's

0:20.3

compromised?

0:21.3

Hmm, it's complicated.

0:25.0

I'm Asheringupa.

0:30.0

I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former FBI special agent and I'm

0:36.6

a legal and national security analyst.

0:39.3

And I'm Renata Mariati. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer and a legal analyst.

0:47.0

And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down to a sound bite or a tweet.

0:54.0

So, Aisha, you're going to have to help me understand this recent indictment of Mr. McGonigall.

1:05.4

Is that how you say his name? I've been saying McGonigall.

1:09.3

McGonigal. Okay, so what what's going on here? Help us understand this is a complicated indictment. This is not this one's not a straightforward at all.

1:20.1

Yes, so there's actually two indictments.

1:23.0

One in New York, there was another one filed the same day in D.C.

1:28.0

Whoa. I only read the New York one.

1:30.0

Yeah, there's a whole other one which is I think even the DC one is

1:35.2

even sketchier than the the New York one. So the New York one involves the former head of the counterintelligence division of the New York

1:48.7

field office of the FBI, the special agent in charge.

1:52.6

So the New York Field Office has an assistant director in charge

1:58.4

of the entire office, but because it is the largest field office,

2:04.1

and a couple of other large fields offices

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