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It's Complicated

Reforms to Policing is Complicated

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Holding Police accountable for their actions is very complicated.  Changing right-wing conspiracy theorists' minds is complicated. Staying active and healthy is complicated. Asha and Renato discuss what prosecution of the people who beat Tyre Nichols so severely that he died from his injuries will probably look like. And why it's so hard to hold police accountable. Video footage from the attack on Paul Pelosi was just released. The truth doesn't look anything like what the conspiracy theorists believe.  Plus, Renato comes clean about his oatmeal habit. Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Subscribe on Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/   Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariotti   Opening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

M-S-S-W Media

0:08.4

So Renato in the last week we saw the horrific beating of Tyree Nichols by Memphis police officers.

0:16.1

This was completely caught on video. Does that mean that this is going to be an

0:21.8

easy case to prosecute?

0:25.0

It's complicated.

0:27.0

I'm Renata Mariati.

0:31.0

I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.

0:36.8

And I'm Asher Rangappa. I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former

0:41.8

FBI special agent and I'm a former FBI Special Agent,

0:43.4

and I'm a Legal and National Security analyst.

0:46.0

And we're here to help you understand topics

0:48.2

that can't be boiled down into a sound bite or a tweet.

1:09.4

So, Asha, I don't know if we've ever seen a beating or police brutality that was this disturbing and was caught on video from so many angles like this one was. It mean it was it was very difficult to watch. Yeah and

1:16.0

Renato full disclosure I've read a lot about the case including in the

1:21.6

aftermath of the video being released and people's

1:24.3

descriptions of it but I could not bring myself to watch the video to be honest with

1:30.3

you. Yeah I've watched a lot of it.

1:33.4

I don't know if I've watched everything.

1:35.6

I watched body cam and then there is a surveillance footage from across the street.

1:40.9

Yeah, the telephone pole. Yeah, and that really is what is most revealing.

1:46.8

You know, one thing that I think is interesting is if, you know, one thing I tried to do was imagine that there's only the body cam footage

1:55.0

you know and if there was only the body cam footage I actually think this this would have been a much more difficult case to prosecute because you can make a lot of arguments about what they can see and what they can't see at different points of time.

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