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Lisa Harper's Back Porch Theology

What’s So Audacious About Faith: Numbers

Lisa Harper's Back Porch Theology

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Talk Radio, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.92.7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of Back Porch Theology, Lisa and Allison dive into the book of Numbers, exploring its surprising themes of communication, intimacy, and God’s deeply personal care for His people, reflecting along the way on God’s mercy through the story of Moses and the bold, faithful courage of Zelophehad’s daughters. It’s a hope-filled truth that even in the wilderness, God knows His people by name and never stops drawing them close. Grab a chair and join us on the porch, we saved you a seat.

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0:00.0

Old Testament is not a punitive canon,

0:04.0

and then you get to promise in the New Testament.

0:06.0

That's not true.

0:08.0

Not at all.

0:09.0

You see as much grace and kindness and mercy

0:13.0

and relational intimacy with our Creator- Redeemer

0:17.0

in the Old Testament, as you do in the New Testament.

0:19.0

In the New Testament, it's incarnate because Jesus

0:22.0

comes, so the story becomes clear. But it's as good a story in the Old Testament. You know, I've got

0:28.9

this beautiful daughter who calls me mom. And the reality that, oh, if I do my job well, and I give her wings,

0:38.4

and she launches into the world,

0:41.4

and she becomes all that God has for her.

0:44.7

She may or may not live nearby.

0:47.0

I don't want to put those boundaries on her.

0:49.1

I want her to be all that God is called her to be.

0:51.7

And the other night I thought,

0:53.6

I might be physically alone again.

0:55.7

And I sensed him saying, I'm going to teach how to be alone.

1:00.1

But this time, you're not going to feel like it.

1:01.6

Yeah.

1:05.3

Access More.

1:14.5

Hey. Access more. Hey, hey, backporters. My name is Allison Allen. I'm the 5-foot-12 spiritual wingwoman to Lisa Harper for Backport theology.

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