Hi everybody and welcome to Maintenance Phase. My name is Aubrey Gordon and I am here with

my co-host Michael Hobbs.

Hello.

Yeah, hi.

Hi.

We're doing like a little overture episode. This is like a little teaser because we know

that when people find a new podcast, oftentimes they scroll down to the bottom of the feed.

That's what I do.

Yes.

So we wanted to give folks a little introduction to who we are, what this podcast is, and sort

of what are some of the underlying critiques that are going to come up.

And we're going to talk about our own experiences in relation to those.

False. I will be revealing nothing about myself, but proceed.

Ironically, the anonymous person here is going to be the vulnerable one.

Should we talk about our inspirations for the show and how we got the idea of doing it?

Yeah.

Why don't you kick us off on this one?

So my desire to do a show like this came from a couple months ago.

I was looking through the top charts on Apple podcasts and health is one of the categories.

And I was scrolling through the top, I don't know, 50, 100 health podcasts and very, very,

very few of them were subversive at all or seemed to be in any way skeptical of the

wellness industry.

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