Welcome to a questions from the closet exclusive. I'm Charlie Bird. And I'm Ben

Shalatti. We're between seasons right now and we decided to do a really fun

episode. We've wanted to do for a while. So today we're joined by Sarah Keller

Darnit. Sarah Keller, like first. Hey guys. So Sarah, you've been on before? Yes, I have.

Tell us what's been up in your life since we last talked. Well, I recently

moved to San Antonio, Texas. I live three blocks south of the Alamo and I have a

little store 50 yards away from the river walk. And I run with my father. We are

jewelers and metal smiths. And yeah, I'm developing my artist, learning how to run a

business, getting lots of really cool people. So at me, I can make a jewelry. I love

that. I'm proud of you. Happy for you. Thank you. I'm excited for this

episode. This we've actually tried to do this a couple times. Today we're talking

about what's it like to be on a pedestal. And Sarah, for like a while, has been like,

I'm so interested in interviewing you and like really getting down to the

nitty gritty of what it's like to be been in Charlie. And that's like really kind of

you. I don't like to do people care. But they don't make a list of the radio.

They don't turn it off now. I think like both of you, like for the sake of like the

podcast and what it is that you do, you have to present a certain amount of

confidence about who it is that you are and like what it means and like how you go about

doing that. And I think that it's important for people to understand not just like the

humanity, but the process in which like your humanity comes out for better, for worse.

I don't know how to say this any nicer, but as great as it is to be you, I know sometimes

it's sex to be you too. Like you books to be us. Yeah. Well, I think like you have the like

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