running Larer on WNC on WNC by way, one tiny addendum to the last conversation we were having

with Liz Kim and the mayor riding the subway's listener texts.

I would prefer to see all the upper management of the MTA riding the subway on a daily basis.

So we hear you and that's another show.

On Monday, presidential Biden announced a new student loan forgiveness program that he says could benefit 30 million

borrowers relief may be on the way for people in a number of categories so

listen up if you think this might apply to you or someone you know.

If you owe more money than the amount of your initial loan because of unpaid interest,

you could have up to $20,000 automatically forgiven.

If you've been paying your student loans back

for 20 years or more, and you know

we've had callers who say 20 years or more,

it's shocking to people who have not been in that position,

you could have some or all of that money cancelled.

You'd be forgiven for having ripplash from 2023 when the Supreme Court struck down the

Biden administration's last attempt at a student debt overhaul but this plan has a

few key differences that the mayor hope that the mayor the president hopes will stand up in court so will impact the

details of the plan some of the ways the Biden administration hopes to insulate

it from the sort of legal attacks that the last one faced.

Joining us now is Danielle Douglas Gabriel National Higher Education reporter

at the Washington Post.

Hey Danielle, welcome back to WNYC.

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