Hello, this is the Webbox Podcast. I'm Matt Chauley bringing you the best of my time

to edit. So you can listen like Monday to Friday, 10 till one. And if you can't get enough

of it, you can come and see me live. If you come on my tour, we're taking the radio show

around the country. I'm also doing stand-up, you can go to Matt Chauley.com for all the

details of that. Right, coming up on today's episode, just a small matter of war and how

to avert it. We'll unpick exactly what's happening between Russia and Ukraine and what it

means for the region and for Britain too. So it's your sort of complete guide to making

sense of what's happening there. That's coming up in just a moment. But first, as ever

we kick off with our columnist panel on a Monday, it is Libby Raich sheet, so it's Libby

Pairbist and Rachel Sylvester. So I suppose we should say we're talking politics.

Let's start with the latest, just when lying, rule breaking, intimidation and bribery

was not enough. We now add allegations of Islamophobia to the mix with the claims by Nuzhat

Ghani, which was fired from her job as a minister because of her muslimness. It's been

denied by Mark Spencer, the chief whip. And now yet another inquiry has been ordered. What

do you make of this, Libby Pairbist? Well, at the moment, there's just too much stuff

for our early 2020. I mean, who drank what? Who said what? And I would have more sympathy

with Ms. Ghani if she had made more of a fuss about this a great deal earlier because

her attack is coming just in the middle of all these other attacks on the whips and

on the government. But I think that the trouble is that when a party or a government seems

to be fighting in turn, do you like a lot of rabid rats in a sack, then everybody loses

all respect for all sides. It's like the big on going around Christchurch, college in

Oxford, you know, Don's versus Dean, which has now made this college a universal laughing

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