Hello, this is the Red Box Podcast. I'm Matt Surely. It's Fuffa for Friday, a special

hello to Paul. He's been on the Apple Podcast, and as posted with you, five stars, no less,

says Matt's pro. It was my choice of listing joy in the morning when I get the chance.

But having a podcast of the columnist in the main feature makes up for missing the show,

consistently entertaining with the columnist and diverse on the features. Thanks Paul,

I couldn't agree more, genuinely didn't write that myself. Coming up on today's episode

of the podcast, everyone's talking about letters, letters going into Graeme Brady. How many

letters are there? Are there 54 people taking their letters back? All of that. We're not going

to talk about that. We're going to talk about letters which have changed political history

down the years from letters to prime ministers, try to get them to change their policies to

Daniel Finkelstein's letter from Harold Wilson about watching them up. It's January. It's

great. That's coming up. First, it's ever on a Friday. We kick off with our columnist panel,

and it is 4-Mail. It's James Forsyth and Melanie Wheat.

If people are listening to this, thought it was all going to be over soon. It was all going

to come to a hand and talk of Boris Johnson's future was going to be all done and dusted

within a matter of days. James, you've got some bad news for them.

I think this is going to go on for quite some time. One, two, three MP. That's kind of

foot in both camps. This has led to me that they've been working for a period of few weeks of

trench warfare between the rebels and the Johnson-Lardists over whether you get to that 54 letters mark.

My best estimate is that if the grey report lands where number 10 have been suggesting to

people that will land, that you'll probably get to about 40 letters. That will be bobbing

around that. Obviously, if it's worse, the number could go up, but I don't think this is going to be

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