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CRC that's right the CRC the Christian reform church I know I've never talked

about that on the podcast interestingly enough when I know, I've never talked about that on the podcast. Interestingly enough, when I was young, I actually

attended a CRC youth group occasionally and went on, I think two or three youth retreats with them,

and other CRC churches would come and my

impression was always that they were more to the left of where I was like as far as ordaining

women, pastors I mean we had one of the retreats and you do have adults there and you also have

teenagers who are you know 1819 so legally adults and they brought in a female speaker who was

who was a feminist we'll just put it that way I mean she

talked about she shared with everyone how her dream was to ride motorcycles with her

girlfriend in retirement and if her husband didn't like it he can stay home and I guess she

thought that was edgy and that the kids would really like that or something but I remember

we played apples to apples one night she was there at the retreat and she put down the word dignified and then I put

down the card Rush Limbaugh and then when she saw that she wanted to know who put that

card down and she when she was she was upset as much as someone whose Dutch reform can get upset

I mean it's it's they have their library voice on and they give you the impression

they're listening to NPR sometimes but but she was I remember that that really flustered her and I just my

impression was I was probably 16 at that time 15 I don't know but my impression

was they were they were just more to the left and and I think that was confirmed as I was watching their

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