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I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast February 28, 2023.

Yes, there was a big showdown at the DC Circuit last week over the speech or debate clause and no it had nothing to do with Mike Pence.

But it may have everything to do with Mike Pence.

It had to do with Representative Scott Perry and his cell phone,

the latter of which was seized by the FBI in connection with the January 6th investigation.

And Representative Perry wants it back and he sure doesn't want anything on it used in the investigation.

And he went to Chief Judge Barrel Howell of the US District Court for the District of Columbia and moved to quash the order for his phone.

The judge said no and the DC Circuit held arguments last week and there's been a mess of stuff unsealed all of a sudden.

So we got together in the virtual jungle studio to discuss it all.

Quinted Jurassic and Scott Anderson, LawFair senior editors and Dominic Solari, our student contributor who wrote a terrific oral argument preview and summary of the case.

It's about time we had some good grand jury investigation litigation in the DC Circuit.

We haven't had that since the Mueller investigation, at least not that LawFair listeners would care about.

So I'm super pumped. It's the LawFair podcast February 28th.

What's going on with Scott Perry's cell phone?

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