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We know at least two and can probably guess there are several more US defense companies working in this space.

We know China has been developing them, we know Russia has been developing them.

The scary outcome that we're kind of coming to is that it's entirely possible each of these attacks might have been by a different actor or nation state.

I think it's kind of a hesitate to use the word arms race, but these devices are kind of proliferating.

I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast February 27, 2023.

You remember Havana Syndrome, diplomats, spies, and other people suddenly hearing a loud noise and then having neurological symptoms, sometimes debilitating.

Was it a mass panic? Was it a sonic weapon?

Was it a directed energy weapon?

And who was wielding it?

These are the subjects of the sound, the mystery of Havana Syndrome, a new podcast series put out by our good friends at Goat Roadio,

along with PRX and Project Brazen.

Joining me in the Jungle Studio to talk about the new project, Nicky Wolf and Max Johnston, who you all will remember from his work on Allies.

We talked about the truth of Havana Syndrome, was it real or was it a fantasy?

We talked about what kind of weapon could do that sort of thing and could you build one at home.

And we talked about who would want to shoot a ray gun at US personnel all over the world.

It's the LawFair podcast, February 27, Nicky Wolf and Max Johnston on the Sound.

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