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Deadline: White House

“What’s going on stinks to high heaven”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

News, Versant, Ms Now, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on the second day of DOJ interviews with Maxwell for the second day, the FCC approving the $8 billion Paramount-Skydance merger, and how smaller law firms are challenging the Trump administration’s agenda. Joined by: Julie K. Brown, Andrew Weissmann, Tim Miller, Angelo Carusone, Cornell Belcher, Rep. Madeleine Dean, Rev. Al Sharpton, John Heilemann, Mike Schmidt, and Traci Feit Love.

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in the East. The American people may never know,

0:09.2

like really know, what was said, what was revealed, what was asked, and what was answered today

0:15.1

within the four walls of a courthouse conference room in Tallahassee, Florida. And therein lies the problem. Because for the second

0:22.7

time in two days, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche blurred the lines between his old job and his

0:28.4

new one, with his role at the Justice Department on one hand and his former role as Donald

0:34.4

Trump's personal attorney on the other. Blanche departed his interview with Jeffrey

0:39.2

Epstein's accomplice, Galane Maxwell, a short time ago. Glein Maxwell's attorney, David Oscar Marcus,

0:45.9

said that at no point over the last two days did his client Maxwell refuse to answer a question.

0:52.3

But here again, we have to take his word for it. It's not just that

0:56.6

the rest of us are without any transcripts or recordings or witnesses in the course of the

1:02.6

Trump administration's effort at fact-finding, if that's what we're calling it. It's that it also

1:10.7

feels like we're without any reliable narrators.

1:14.1

After all, Donald Trump, a man with a pre-existing adversarial relationship with the

1:18.7

truth and the press, appears to be growing less forthright on this topic by the day.

1:25.8

Remember when the Wall Street Journal, exactly one week ago today,

1:29.3

reported that Trump's sketch scribbled and signed a letter for inclusion in Jeffrey Epstein's

1:35.0

50th birthday book, Trump's reaction, said it was fake. He sued the publication, along with a number

1:43.0

of individuals, including Rupert Murdoch.

1:45.8

Today, the New York Times is reporting this, quote,

1:48.2

Trump's name appeared on a contributor list for a book celebrating Epstein's birthday,

1:53.5

evidence that he participated in the collection, even as he denied that he signed a sexually

1:58.7

suggestive note and drawing, end quote. Now, again, these stories are not suggesting or providing evidence that Donald Trump

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