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Deadline: White House

“Caught flat-footed”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

News, Versant, Ms Now, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace is joined by John Heilemann, Emily Davies, Ben Rhodes, Texas State Rep. James Talarico, Molly Jong-Fast, John Hudson, and Bob Kitchen.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in the east. Donald Trump entering the week in a position

0:08.5

he doesn't typically find himself in with some of his most loyal backers, low mo, as in low momentum,

0:16.4

on spinning a bogus narrative about the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.

0:25.8

Brand new reporting in the Washington Post reveals that Team Trump was caught flat-footed by the reaction to the DOJ memo that attempted to pour cold water on the existence of bombshell

0:32.4

revelations in the government's possession, claims spread most convincingly and prolifically by the officials

0:38.9

who now populate the highest levels of Trump's own administration. From that new reporting,

0:44.0

quote, Donald Trump is increasingly frustrated with his administration's handling of the furor

0:49.9

around the Jeffrey Epstein files, concerned that the saga's unabated domination of the news

0:55.6

is overshadowing his agenda. That is, according to two people familiar with his thinking.

1:01.0

One person tells the Washington Post this, quote, this is a pretty substantial distraction.

1:06.4

While many are trying to keep the unity, in many ways the DOJ and the FBI are breaking at the seams.

1:12.8

Many are wondering how sustainable this is going to be for all the parties involved,

1:17.3

be it the FBI director or the attorney general.

1:20.7

Well, perhaps the FBI director or the attorney general should have dialed back the promises they were making on television

1:28.7

about the existence of lists and other evidence, given that they were appointed by a president

1:34.0

who has made no secret about his belief that the main function of the FBI director

1:39.2

and Attorney General is now to protect him.

1:42.4

We have shown you many of the clips of Dan Bongino and Cash Patel

1:46.8

pushing, clamoring, screaming about the release of the Epstein files. Remember, it is Cash Patel

1:53.8

who lashed out at House Republicans back in 2003 by saying this, quote, put on your big boy pants and let us know who the pedophiles are, end quote.

2:05.0

Cash Patel also promised full transparency during his Senate confirmation hearing.

2:10.4

So will you work with me on this issue so we know who worked with Jeffrey Epstein in building these sex trafficking rings.

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