Welcome once again to the conversations that Matter Podcast. I'm your host John

Harris. We have a special opportunity today to explore something that I don't

ever, I don't think I ever have actually gotten into in any kind of detail and that is

women's ministry. Women's ministry. One of the things that I've noticed over the

past well three years, four years since the social justice movement really

got going full steam and evangelical circles and there were lament sessions and there were talks about reparations. There were

talks about reparations and all the rest is that oftentimes when a church went quote-unquote woke

It was because something happened in the women's ministries or a women's Bible study at that particular church.

So one of the popular books was Be the Bridge and I don't know how many times I heard this story repeat itself but I did that the

women's Bible study got a hold to be the bridge and they started doing that in their

small group and and that created a situation where women were coming to the

pastor and saying why can't you speak about this from the pulpit and the

pastor wanted to please them and ended up pulling the whole congregation in a not

so great direction.

And of course, women are perfectly capable of bringing in bad doctrine, there's no question about it, but there

does seem to be a hook in women's ministries that is somewhat different, that operates in a different way and is something that I'm probably just not

as knowledgeable about because I'm not a woman, I'm not going to these conferences.

A lot of that material doesn't appeal to me as a guy,

so I'm ignorant.

And so I think it's important to understand, though,

what's happening in women's ministries or some of the threats

that can come in through them and that's why I am pleased to be joined by Melissa

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