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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

What’s Behind Israel’s Unprecedented Protests with Edo Konrad

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

If you’ve been following international news, you’ve noticed the marked rise of protests and conflict in Israel. An unprecedentedly right-wing governing coalition has been elected with Netanyahu at the helm. Hundreds of thousands of people have been taking to the streets in Tel Aviv to protest the right’s moves to get rid of independence and the self-determination of Israeli Jews. Joining us to break it all down is Edo Konrad, editor-in-chief of +972 Magazine, a left-leaning publication that tells the story of people on the ground in Israel and Palestine. Konrad joins WITHpod to discuss the political fight over which hegemonic group may rule Israel, debates over the future of Zionism, why he says there is no going back to a status quo ante and more.

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the nightmare situation of the Israeli kind of liberal and center left and the center is now kind of

0:05.8

coming to fruition and it's terrifying to us. And I think kind of like if I can make an

0:10.4

analogy to the United States and to the conservatives and to the Republican Party, the attempt to

0:14.8

enshrine minoritarian rule, right? Like this attempt to like in the United States to take over state

0:20.7

legislators and to ensure that next time there's an election to make sure that the Republicans are

0:26.0

able to basically stop the count or reverse the count or you know make sure that a democratic

0:31.2

candidate is not elected. It's different in the Israeli system but the logic is the same to

0:36.3

ensure far right minoritarian rule forever.

0:43.2

Hello and welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

0:46.3

If you have been following international news at all, particularly news of them at least,

0:55.8

you have noticed there is an incredible amount of uprising, protest, conflict in Israel. And unlike

1:05.4

much of the coverage, generally what happens I think with Israel Palestine is that the western

1:10.3

media tends not to cover it unless there is violence basically. Usually if there is violence being

1:16.4

done by Palestinians and then that is what we'll break through, particularly you know, attacks on

1:22.0

Israeli civilians. If there is then Israeli invasion of St. Gaza or incursions into the West Bank,

1:28.2

that will get covered and then we just go back to not covering it is generally. And then sometimes

1:33.2

elections in Israel is one of those places that the American media does cover elections of.

1:38.1

There is a very small group of countries that that's true but because of the relationships

1:42.4

between the US and Israel, because of the Jewish diaspora in the US and people's strong allegiance to

1:47.4

an affection for and connection to the state of Israel, there's a lot of coverage of Israeli politics.

1:52.4

Obviously the current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a very well-known figure. He's

1:58.3

probably you know in the top five best known foreign leaders in America. Aided by the fact that he's

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