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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

The Fixation on Anti-Trans Legislation with Chase Strangio

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

State legislatures have significantly advanced a record number of attacks aimed at restricting LGBTQ+ rights this year. Our guest this week points out that “the number one priority, without any ambiguity” of Republicans has been attacking trans people. Nearly half of the country could see health care bans for trans adolescents by May. This tidal wave of anti-trans legislation, which restricts gender affirming and medically necessary care, continues to have wide-ranging and deleterious impacts, especially on adolescents. Chase Strangio, who is transgender, is deputy director for Transgender Justice with the ACLU’s LGBT and HIV Project and a nationally recognized expert on trans rights. Strangio joins WITHpod to discuss how politics has eclipsed healthcare in some cases, anti-transgender legislation being used as a gateway to broader government control and why conversations about trans people is often predicated on fear and confusion. He also talks about the ongoing political and legislative fights to protect bodily autonomy, gender expression and personal freedom.

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0:00.0

Trans people present this deeply troubling set of freedoms when people need and want order.

0:06.4

Because at the end of the day, we also represent this possibility that you can't figure certain things out

0:12.0

just by looking at someone's body. And that is so troubling to people. And right now, especially as

0:17.6

they feel the world changing around them, I think it's beautiful and amazing and incredibly

0:22.8

liberatory to say, you know what, the world is telling me all these things. My parents are telling

0:27.0

me all these things. My school is telling me all these things. But I know something deeper about

0:30.4

who I am and how I want to manifest that in my body.

0:36.8

Hello and welcome to Wise. It's happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

0:46.1

So I'm speaking to you in April of 2023. And last week, the Kentucky Governor

0:54.3

Bashir, a Democrat, tried to veto this legislation that would ban gender-affirming care for young

1:02.0

people in the state of Kentucky, along with all kinds of other stuff about discussions of sexuality

1:07.0

and gender in school and requiring schools to notify parents about changes of pronouns that

1:14.7

do not conform to the student's biological sex or require like a plan for detransitioning

1:20.5

for certain youth who are under gender-affirming care. A huge slew of like really, really draconian

1:28.5

aggressive and brutal restrictions on trans youth care and trans people's lives. And that piece

1:37.2

of legislation, which was vetoed by the governor, was overridden large majorities of the Republican

1:41.8

House's in Kentucky. It was signed and acted into law. And there's this website you can go do. It's

1:46.8

run just by two volunteers who put together this great website called tracktranslegislation.com.

1:51.5

And if I go there right now and I just pull up and you can sort by state, by bill type and whether

1:56.8

it's signed or enacted, if I just pull up, signed and enacted, I get 16 different pieces of

2:04.4

legislation signed and enacted, going after trans people in one way or another in just March of 2023.

2:12.9

In March of 2023, in the last few weeks, Kentucky, Idaho, Georgia, Utah, Tennessee, Wyoming,

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