"What Real Statesmanship Looks Like"
The Two Matts
The New World
4.2 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 20 October 2023
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
When it comes to exerting influence on the world stage, there was only two real leaders in Israel this week and neither wasn’t Rishi Sunak. Joe Biden brought statesmanship and rhetorical magnificence, while Mo Salah became perhaps the most viewed appeal for humanity the world has ever seen. The Two Matts are also joined by Tanit Koch who explains the complications of Germany’s position on Israel and how Europe is fighting with itself over its place in the world.
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| 0:56.2 | of journalism. Hello, I'm Matt Kelly. And I'm Matt Dan Cona. And this is the two mats for the |
| 1:00.9 | week ending Friday, the 20th of October, a podcast that has not given up on hope, despite it all. |
| 1:06.7 | What did we talk about this episode? Well, obviously we had to talk about the ongoing crisis in the Middle East, |
| 1:12.8 | which, you know, is occupying all the oxygen, really, in the media room at the moment. |
| 1:19.0 | And we had a good discussion about all the shuttle diplomacy that's been going on. |
| 1:24.7 | I think, I mean, I've listened to a lot of podcasts on this topic |
| 1:27.6 | lately. And I think that ours is slightly broader in terms about what the European Union is doing, |
| 1:36.4 | what Germany is doing. And we had our special guest, Tanik Koch, all the way from Frankfurt. |
| 1:40.1 | Which is very underreported in the UK, what's going on in the EU. |
| 1:44.3 | And it's important to what's going to happen in the Middle East, actually. |
| 1:47.0 | And I think Tanit's insight, which you'll get folks in the second half of the podcast, is fascinating, |
| 1:53.6 | especially if you care about the bigger picture and not just the sort of day-to-day row that we see in the media in the UK. |
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