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The Two Matts

"Back To Square One"

The Two Matts

The New World

Politics, Government, News, News Commentary

4.2577 Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Atrocity in Israel ... and what does the reaction in the UK say about our shared humanity? Warning: We discuss some of the graphic violence perpetrated by Hamas. And the Two Matts are joined in the second half by esteemed education campaigner and journalist Fiona Millar who hands Keir Starmer his report card on how to fix schools in the UK and much else besides.


Content warning: brief, graphic description of child mortality.


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0:00.0

Before we go any further, I realise that many of you must have been listening to this podcast thinking,

0:05.2

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0:10.4

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0:47.1

Matt's podcast listeners. And you can cancel any time you like. So it's an unrepeatable offer to

0:53.5

dip your toe into a whole new world of

0:56.5

journalism. Hello, I'm Matt Kelly. And I'm Matt Dancona. And this is the two mats for weekending

1:01.9

Friday the 12th of October. A dissenting voice, but also a voice for positive change. And what

1:07.5

voices? What do you sound like, Matt? Who do who do you sound like you a man of many voices

1:12.0

when you want to a man of a thousand voices unfortunately this this week it's it's got to be a

1:18.2

slightly somber voice because um we talked about israel and then we um talked to the brilliant

1:24.4

Fiona Miller about um education and the labor Labour conference. I guess it's been a

1:29.8

podcast about going back to first principles. Yeah, and it's a serious one. So a bit of a content

1:35.6

warning. There are some graphic descriptions of violence, I'm afraid, but that's because we have

1:41.2

woken up into a particularly violent era right now, I'm afraid.

1:45.5

So check the show notes for more details on that.

1:48.1

What are we going to call the episode this week?

1:51.0

Horror and Hope or...

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