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The Anxious Achiever

What Psychedelic Research Might Mean for Leadership and Work

The Anxious Achiever

Morra Aarons-Mele

Mental Health, Management, Careers, Health & Fitness, Business

4.7600 Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

We’ve seen an increasing number of headlines around the study and use of psychedelics like psilocybin, ketamine, MDMA and LSD. As research continues, many are wondering how these studies can be improved - and how they apply to work and leadership.  In this episode, host Morra Aarons-Mele speaks with clinician Lebert Lester III of the Behavior Wellness Clinic about the application of psychedelics for depression or trauma, and how to increase the number of people of color in clinical trials for these types of medications. Then, she speaks with IMD professor Alyson Meister about her cutting edge research on psychedelics and leadership. For Further Reading: Could Psychedelics Open New Doors for Science and Business?

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0:00.0

LinkedIn Presents.

0:10.3

I'm Maura Aaron's Mealy, and this is The Anxious Achiever, the show that looks at the intersection of mental health and work and how we can all do both better.

0:32.9

Before we dive into the show, I have to tell you that the anxious achiever, the book,

0:39.0

is live in the world, and I would be so grateful if you picked up a copy wherever you buy books.

0:45.9

Now, today's topic, when it comes to mental health, different things work for different people.

0:56.1

You've heard guests and experts on the show talking about trying all different kinds of medications, modalities, even therapists, until they found the treatment that was right for them. And on the show, we're not telling anyone what they should or shouldn't

1:01.4

do, but we're sharing conversations around research, psychological concepts, and practical stories

1:08.9

to fight stigma and help people talk more about mental health,

1:12.6

especially as it pertains to their work and their leadership.

1:16.6

And today we're talking about something that's been in the headlines a lot, psychedelics.

1:22.1

Later in the show, we'll speak with Alison Meister, professor of Leadership and Organizational Behavior at the International

1:29.2

Institute for Management Development in Lausanne, Switzerland. Allison is doing cutting-edge research

1:35.0

on the impact of psychedelics on work and leadership. It's inspired in part by her own journey.

1:41.4

I remember the war on drugs very clearly. We had police officers come to our

1:45.9

classrooms and basically tell us that, you know, we would die if we tried any of these and that

1:50.8

people were throwing themselves off rooftops when on LSD and things like that. So I grew up

1:56.0

very, very scared of trying anything like this. It was through my work in mental health where I started

2:01.8

reading a lot about advances being made in neuroscience and in clinical research and psychotherapy

2:07.8

where people were making huge breakthroughs and making huge progress on issues like anxiety

2:14.2

and depression. And I kind of said, well, there's something going on here and maybe

2:19.9

I should relax my own assumptions. And so I basically said, I'm going to try this out. Before I start

2:25.4

writing about it, before I start talking to leaders about some of these advances, I'm going to

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