Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman.

My guest today is Linda Chavez.

Linda was the highest-ranking woman in the Reagan White House.

She was a Republican nominee for Senate in Maryland, and she would have been Secretary of Labor under George W. Bush, if not for a scandal that we discuss in this conversation.

Linda described herself to me as the Forrest Gump of American politics,

meaning that she has played a minor role in several major events.

And that certainly seems to be true.

For instance, she was at Watergate.

Literally, she ran into one of the Watergate burglars

while they were breaking into the

DNC headquarters on June 17, 1972, and she tells the full story in our conversation.

Immigration was the focus of this episode. Linda heard my recent episode with Lionel Shriver, and she sent me

some thoughtful pushbacks on various claims that I made, in particular about birthright citizenship.

So I decided to just have her on and discuss those claims

and the issue of immigration in general,

which she has worked on for many decades.

We also talk about the achievements and failures

of the current Trump administration on immigration, and much more.

So without further ado, Linda Chavez.

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