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🗓️ 30 October 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | From New York Times opinion, I'm Ross Douthat. And this is Interesting Times. |
| 0:07.0 | Few companies in Silicon Valley these days |
| 0:26.3 | inspire quite as much paranoia as Palantir. |
| 0:30.6 | Co-founded by Peter Thiel in the aftermath of 9-11, |
| 0:34.0 | it now bridges the worlds of digital tech, AI, and the defense industry, promising to make the world much more transparent to its clients, |
| 0:43.9 | whether the Pentagon or the Israeli military or immigration and customs enforcement. |
| 0:49.9 | In the eyes of its critics, Palantir is building a more efficient surveillance state |
| 0:55.2 | for the age of incipient authoritarianism. |
| 0:58.8 | In its own eyes, it's doing essential patriotic work. |
| 1:03.4 | You'll hear that argument from my guest this week, |
| 1:06.5 | the company's chief technology officer, |
| 1:08.5 | who was also recently commissioned as a lieutenant colonel in the |
| 1:12.5 | U.S. Army Reserves. |
| 1:15.0 | Shamsankar, welcome to interesting times. |
| 1:18.3 | Great to be here. |
| 1:18.9 | Thanks for having me, Ross. |
| 1:29.3 | So we're going to talk about a lot of things. |
| 1:36.9 | We're going to talk about your biography and background, how you came to be an officer in the U.S. military, the future of technology and warfare. |
| 1:40.5 | But we have to start with a very, very simple question. |
| 1:43.9 | What is it that Palantir does? Great question. Thank you. I spent a long time crafting |
| 1:48.1 | it. Most important question, yeah. Let's start just at a foundational level. We're a software |
| 1:53.5 | company, and we build software that allows you to manage your data to make better decisions. |
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