Don't hold anything too tightly. Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the

intention of real truth for you, and then let it go. For me our soul is like it's

unbound, it's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves. When people

stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming we turn to

ourselves and that's where you become empowered. Courageous participation attracts

positive things. I'm Gwyneth Paltrow. This is the Goop podcast, bringing together

thought leaders, culture changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists,

doctors, healers and seekers, here to start conversations because simply asking

questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world.

Today is no exception. I'll let Elise fill you in on her extraordinary guest.

All right, over to Elise. Lisa Tadeo is a writer and journalist and the author of an amazing

new book Three Women. It's fascinating and incredible on every level. Lisa ingrained herself in

the lives of three women located in three different places in the country, observing them over

the course of ten years reporting on their sex lives. The book itself reads like a novel,

but it's a true life account and an honest raw exploration of sex and desire. Lisa and I talk

about the making of this incredible book, The Truth of Desire, where it's born from in women and

why it can be so complicated and how it is often influenced by trauma. We talk about the beautiful

and quite haunting stories of each of the women in the book. So I just tried to find

relatability in every story that I looked at. And I think the honesty of these women is the most

relatable aspect because you feel that honesty in yourself and you watch somebody else doing it,

you're like, oh, again, it's just powerful. One other thing, sorry if you hear a tiny bit of

background noise, it could be a passing car or even plants playing music because we hosted

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