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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

What Our Anxiety Tells Us (Ellen Vora, M.D.)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Lemonada Media

Education, Self-improvement

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

“I think we're due for a cultural rebranding around crying. I think that crying, you know, if we start to cry, we inevitably apologize or invariably apologize. We sort of suck it back in and make it as small as it can be. Like the way someone would pinch back a sneeze, we’re like holding the tears back, making it smaller, collecting ourselves. And you know, if you know, somebody who's crying frequently or you're like, they're in a bad place. And I think that we really need to see crying as this deep wisdom from our body saying, you need a release right now, let's have of one. And when you get an opportunity to cry, dive into it and let it be big, let it be complete rather than smaller. Like let it be bigger.” So says Dr. Ellen Vora, a Columbia University-trained psychiatrist who takes a functional and holistic approach to mental health—namely, she treats the whole system, looking for where states like anxiety and depression might be rooted in the body, whether it’s less-than-ideal nutrition and an out-of-whack gut, or poor sleep and breathing. In her just-launched book—THE ANATOMY OF ANXIETY—she tackles this state that is ever-present for many of us. In fact, it’s easy to argue that if you aren’t feeling anxious, you aren’t really alive in this complex, difficult rollercoaster of time. But in Ellen’s model, she differentiates between true and false anxiety—both are very real and valid concerns. For false anxiety, typically there’s an imminently treatable physical root that can be addressed until the body comes back into balance and the mind calms. True anxiety, on the other hand, is an alarm clock that something is not right—that you’re out of alignment, or integrity, in some way. In today’s episode we talk about both, including the overwhelming load that we’re all carrying and how important it is to cry. We also explore psychedelics and what it means to really heal. OK, let’s get to our conversation. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: It’s not ‘all in your head’, it’s in your body… Building your sleep toolkit… Honoring real food cravings… The importance of finding release… MORE FROM ELLEN VORA: The Anatomy Of Anxiety: Understanding and Overcoming the Body's Fear Response Ellen's Website Follow Ellen on Instagram and check out her videos on YouTube and TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi friends. Throughout this holiday season, you will find me right here per normal. We will keep

0:06.6

publishing new episodes every week and a few solos thrown in as well. So when you just need to escape

0:14.2

from the business of the holiday shuffle or take a break from mom or dad or who knows who,

0:19.8

we'll be here as we always are.

0:30.8

Hi, it's Elise Loonen, host of Pulling the Thread.

0:34.5

I'm an author, a podcast host, and parent who built a long career in media.

0:38.9

I grew up in a state of perpetual curiosity, investigating the world and asking a lot of questions.

0:45.4

In this show, I chat with culture defining leaders, thinkers, and experts about this rare

0:50.8

moment that we find ourselves in and how to think about our own lives and experiences

0:55.0

within a larger social and spiritual construct.

0:59.8

I think we're due for a cultural rebranding around crying.

1:04.3

I think that crying, you know, if we start to cry, we inevitably apologize or invariably apologize.

1:12.8

We sort of suck it back in and make it as small as it can be, like the way someone would pinch back a sneeze. We're like holding

1:16.9

the tears back, making it smaller, collecting ourselves. And you know, if you know somebody

1:22.4

who's crying frequently, you're like, they're in a bad place. And I think that we really

1:27.3

need to see crying as this

1:28.5

deep wisdom from our body saying, you need a release right now. Let's have one. And when you get

1:33.8

an opportunity to cry, dive into it and let it be big. Let it be complete rather than smaller,

1:40.1

let it be bigger. So says Dr. Ellen Vora, a Columbia University trained psychiatrist who takes

1:46.3

a functional and holistic approach to mental health. Namely, she treats the whole system looking

1:51.2

for where states like anxiety and depression might be rooted in the body, whether it's less than

1:56.2

ideal nutrition, an out-of-wack gut, or poor sleep and breathing. In her just-launch book, The Anatomy of

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